Naruto Manga 458 Breakdown and Discussion: WTH are you Kage thinking?!?; Raikage and His Temper Tantrum and Sakura Gets a Clue.

There are meetings and then there are meetings.  Hey, Raikage, is this how negotiations between countries are handled?  Control your temper!  Geez!

Geez!  Can anyone say "FOOD FIGHT!"  Note that the only cool head in the room is Gaara, the Godaime Kazekage

Geez! Can anyone say "FOOD FIGHT!" Note that the only cool head in the room is Gaara, the Godaime Kazekage

Perhaps a new meeting table, crafted by “hand” by Konoha’s own Yamato, would be a nice gesture for this rather contentious meeting?  Well…maybe not.

This is Penny (TsunadesTwin) with this week’s rundown on the The Great Debate of the Five Kage.  Perhaps it should be retitled, Great Debate of the Great Egos (I don’t count Gaara and Danzo; Gaara is so cool and Danzo doesn’t count because of the Jonin vote).   This week we don’t get much taijutsu/ninjutsu/genjutsu action but we do get a lot of political action that will, ultimately, change the course of both the great nations and of the manga. We also see how the world order of Naruto shifts without him being where the action is – between Sai and Sakura.

Good thing that Pain ducked out when he did.  I’m sure he’s laughing in his grave at all the political antics going on because of Akatsuki.

I’m going to start with Sakura and Sai as this part is more fodder for that NaruSaku/NaruHina debate.

Our buddy, Sai, has a problem.  He is concerned about his friend, Naruto and knows that there is more to Naruto/Sakura than meets the eye.  He doesn’t want to sit around and do nothing.  So, what does he do?  He plays “matchmaker” and confesses everything he knows – including Naruto’s little scrape with the Cloud Ninja.    For someone who claimed to not be able to read emotions, he’s come a long way from when we all first met him.   At the same time,  I think Sakura has had her head up her ass for the entire manga to this point:   Sai mentions that Naruto lovesher and Sakura acts so surprised.  WHAT?!?  Sakura, you’d have to have lived on Mars to NOT be able to see that Naruto loves you.  Anyway, Sakura takes a mental stroll down memory lane and reminisces about Naruto and comments he has made, along with the promise he made to her about Sasuke – yeah, that “promise of a lifetime.”  Whoa boy!  Naruto’s going to have a whole new dynamic to work with once he gets back…

What about these memories didn't you understand, Sakura?  A little slow on the uptake, aren't ya?

What about these memories didn't you understand, Sakura? A little slow on the uptake, aren't ya?

For all of the so-called comedic clubbing she has done to Naruto in the past, I often wonder if Sakura’s opinion and feelings for Naruto have changed. However, at the same time, it isn’t the first time her actions towards Naruto were noticed.  If you recall, Yamato nearly called her on those emotions as well – he would have had Naruto had not awoken from his Kyuubi-induced hibernation during the attack at Tenchi Bridge.

Sai finished the job that Yamato started...and from a guy who is clueless on emotions.  Not too shabby!

Sai finished the job that Yamato started...and from a guy who is clueless on emotions. Not too shabby!

And, Sakura just has to know why.  Asking why someone loves you is like asking why the sky is blue.  Geez!  Sakura, it just is.  Love is that way, ya know?  Oh, right.  You don’t know.  You’ve been so blinded by the good looks of that Uchiha traitor that you merely took Naruto for granted. (grrrrrrr).

What starts off this conversation between Sakura and Sai is the confession I mentioned above.  Even Shizune is confused but…Sai relates the reason as to why and it makes sense – Faith.  I mean, if your own father has faith in you – that same father who taught your Sensei – there is nothing for Kakashi to do but trust his Sensei’s instincts…

Naruto is risking his life to save the sorry ass of that traitor you love so dearly.  How does that make you feel, Sakura?

Naruto is risking his life to save the sorry ass of that traitor you love so dearly. How does that make you feel, Sakura?

Well, enough of the personal drama.  On to the political action.  And, there was PLENTY of it!

So, Gaara starts off the meeting – perhaps to introduce himself but it becomes obvious shortly after that he has a clear message:  you a**holes ignored me when I asked for help.  All who helped me was the PREVIOUS Hokage (which I am sure that Danzo is writhing over…).

Give it to them Gaara.  Those old egomaniacs need a good drubbing from the new kid on the block!

Give it to them Gaara. Those old egomaniacs need a good drubbing from the new kid on the block!

Oh and one more thing…he also mentions one important fact:  he’s a former Jinchuurki.  If you recall, that is a “no-no” in the current shinobi climate.  I mean, that is a “state secret.”  Gaara, who is of the new generation and heavily influenced by the toughest Jinchuuriki ever to strut across the shinobi universe, Naruto Uzumaki, doesn’t give a rat’s ass about that…

So, let's get down to business.  I was one of "them."  Any of you going to do anything about that?!?

So, let's get down to business. I was one of "them." Any of you going to do anything about that?!?

Well, the old farts of the round table seems to dismiss our favorite Kage as nothing more than a clueless nuissance.  Gaara is getting a very painful lesson in the field of politics – the less you know, the more you will be crucified by the enemy.  Tsuchikage (from the Hidden Rock) really has it out for him for some reason.

Needless to say, these guys aren't going to be bosom buddies at the end of this little political shogi match...

Needless to say, these guys aren't going to be bosom buddies at the end of this little political shougi match...

Part of the issue is, like I said, we have the old guard versus the new; the other four Kage versus Gaara who is the ripe old age of, ahem, 16.  Good god!  One has to learn the job somehow – and what an on-the-job training session it is becoming.  I wonder if Gaara is re-thinking his “wanting to become connected to his village” vow he made to Kankuro so long ago…

Well, it doesn’t stop there, folks.  We have Blowhard #1 – the Raikage making demands/accusations he has no business making.  Then there is Blowhard #2 – the Tsuchikage who merely hates the younger folk, including Gaara.  Of course there is Gaara.  But add the two silent ones:  the beautiful but – as it turns out – rather ashamed Mizukage who is trying to attone for the sins of her country’s past and our favorite Kage that performed a rather quiet coup d’etat, Danzo.  Our smart and very beautiful Mizukage is trying to hold her own but who steals the show?  Of course, our dictatorKage, Danzo.  Man, he sure knows how to play politics oh, so well!  He’s the one that has the bombshell announcements perfectly timed to steer the debate in his directon to make himself look good to our Iron Country moderator, Mifune.  However, Blowhard #1, our Raikage, sees right through Danzo:

Yeah, Danzo.  You aren't being as obvious as you think you are.  Wiley, manipulative and just plain suspicious...yeah, the Raikage is on to you!

Yeah, Danzo. You aren't being as subtle as you think you are. Wiley, manipulative and just plain suspicious...yeah, the Raikage is on to you!

Ok, bombshell number 1:  Madara Uchiha is still alive.  Like, duh!  Even Naruto knows that one!  It ain’t as much a secret as you seem to think it is.  Yeah, sure, he could control a bijuu but…this was knowledge that has been known for oh, so long…

Um...Danzo?  The rest of us manga readers knew this one.  Move along...

Um...Danzo? The rest of us manga readers knew this one. Move along...and, who is your source? It can't be Naruto Uzumaki!

Then the discussion turns to a novel idea:  an alliance.  Well!  Finally someone comes up with a novel idea.   Thank you Land of Iron!  However, who he has in mind to lead this little political dance is what blows everything into oblivion – the one who has the one known Jinchuurki left, Danzo.  What the hell?!?  Was Mifune smoking crack?!?  Too bad that someone on that Cloud Naruto-beat up squad never informed their boss that his bro was possibly still alive…

Well that second bombshell leads Danzo into thinking he’s got this Kage appointment all wrapped up inside his bandages.  He’s got to show how he is going to control our favorite Jinchuuriki, Naruto -which we all know he thinks is a weapon of mass destruction and must remain close to the village.  Like hell he will!

I'm sure you really like where this is heading, Danzo.  Put the cookie jar in reach of the kid.  Nice job, Mifune.

I'm sure you really like where this is heading, Danzo. Put the cookie jar in reach of the kid. Nice job, Mifune.

However….

Well, that’s all for this week’s rather explosive chapter.  I can’t wait to see what happens next week!  We have action on many fronts – Naru/Saku/Sai, Danzo and company, Sasuke and company and possibly KillerBee is out there somewhere.  So, until next chapter…

–Penny (TsunadesTwin)

What?!?  We have to wait until next week?!?  *moulding chakra in hands*

What?!? We have to wait until next week?!? *moulding chakra in hands*

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~ by 綱手-Tsunades Twin on August 1, 2009.

15 Responses to “Naruto Manga 458 Breakdown and Discussion: WTH are you Kage thinking?!?; Raikage and His Temper Tantrum and Sakura Gets a Clue.”

  1. dem i was good but u focused to much shit talk about love naruto shit fuck dat man get down to business anywezz i really dont like where this is going danzo may but i dont
    if he has the control some thing bad is going to happen

    im really sure the danzo dont just plan on being hokage can any 1 add to this

  2. yh danzo got bigger plan then being hokage anyweez i really dont think hokage is big deal to a guy like danzo

  3. Sick review Penny!!! And in response to John, do you realize how important the love relationships in this series are? You have Hinata who admitted her love for Naruto and now you have Sakura who was probably swayed into a possible hookup as well. This love triangle is getting pretty crazy. I really do hope Sasuke kills Danzo ASAP. Danzo is the worst Hokage to ever take power. Suspicions arise now that the 4th Mizukage was said to control the tailed beasts. Who, in fact, is Tobi? Is he Uchiha Madara or the 4th Mizukage? Let’s not forget that time Kisame called him the Mizukage. Here’s a panel link for reference. Let’s keep the discussion going!

    http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/404/02/

  4. To be fair Penny, even us on Mars know that Naruto loves Sakura…she had to be living on Pluto or some shit.

  5. Sai wasn’t trying to play matchmaker here. He was trying to save Naruto from getting himself killed over that stupid ‘promise of a lifetime’ crap. It’s great to have integrity and your ‘way of the ninja’ but you can paint yourself into some crappy corners with it. The whole Sasuke promise is definitely one of them.

    Hopefully, Sakura realizes that she has grown up since Sasuke left and gets Naruto out of that ‘promise of a lifetime’. She couldn’t be as dense as to let Naruto continue to get beat down because of her puppy love for Sasuke… can she?

    I predict that Danzo runs the alliance until KillerBee comes back at which time the Raikage tries to assert power now that he realizes his brother is alive and well. Danzo tells Raikage to go play with himself which touches off a nice little war for control of the alliance.

    Of course, I hold out hope that Sasuke takes Danzo out before then, but this the guy that got duped by KillerBee so don’t be surprised if Danzo beats Sasuke and his crew like a ragdoll. Looking forward to seeing some of that uncloaked Anbu stuff at work! Sai, Kakashi and Yamato don’t count.

  6. This must be what Kishimoto meant when he said Sai was gonna cause something big.

    Danzo was really level-headed throughout the meeting … unlike Rai and Tsuchi.
    I think Danzo could kick Sasuke’s ass. The only really dangerous thing that Danzo might not expect his Sasuke’s Mangekyou, but then again, Danzo might have a Mangekyou too … o.o

  7. Ok, for those of you who hated this review, I will say this much: I don’t fucking care! I’m the author and I am entitled to write what I see is important. If you don’t like it, write it yourself. To be honest, I am pissed off at those of you who think you can write better…and, I will tell you that I wrote a piece once for another blog that vented. Trust me, you don’t want to be on the receiving end of that!

    Let me explain a few thing for those of you wanting Kyuubi rage to take over these negotiations…

    I am not a romantic in any sense of the manga word. However, the interrelationships between Hinata and Sakura with Naruto are extremely important to Kishi. Why? In case you haven’t noticed, Naruto is of the age where deodorant is absolutely necessary – aka puberty. So, hormones are raging in this piece. The secrets (sorry for the deodorant pun), that are being emphasized are so damn stupid it is about damn time these came out. For any manga to come out with the words “I love you,” is explosive. And, now we have both sides – Hinata and Sakura. This is the fodder of much debate on any boards, whether you blood and guts types want to admit to it or not. I covered it first as to not emphasize importance but because it was the shortest. I saved the explosive for LAST. This isn’t about blood and guts – Kishi is a message driven mangaka (manga creator).

    Ms Mandi – Yeah, we are on Mars, now aren’t we? Sakura has been a permanent resident from the very beginning…lol

    My big beef is with Naruto Fan. Again, if you didn’t like the review, use your mouse and move on. You want politics, you are going to get it. I will call things as I see them whether or not you like it. As I said, if you think you can do better, write the goddamn thing yourself. And…if you don’t like it, you can show some respect for opposing points of view that conflict with yours. Your comment, to me, doesn’t deserve a nice response. Yes, I can be a bitch but then…your comment was one of an ill-informed jackass who wants nothing more than attention.

    ‘Nuff said.

  8. Estrogen no jutsu? jk jk i don’t want to die =). Nice breakdown penny! I always come here for your breakdown because they’re very entertaining and they explain everything very well, almost like the ones jeremiah used to write =(…

  9. @penny – “who wants nothing more than attention”… well I’d say you gave it to him. But I suppose its well within your rights to get upset about a comment like that.

    Ok…here’s the deal. If you are going to argue that I want nothing more than attention, you just insulted me yet again. Yes, it is my right as a person and as a writer of this blog. I don’t take insults lightly and expect that those who reply treat those who write with respect – even if they disagree and most do. I do my best to treat those that respond with respect if they deserve that respect. Part of the issue with writing is that I AM getting attention whether or not you like it. So, does that make me attention hungry??? From here on out, I’d watch your comments and their tone – and that warning goes for everyone else. You are the second person who has insulted me this week and I don’t take kindly to that. You got off easy, pal, as did Mr. Insult earlier. Consider yourself fortunate. If it were MsMandi, I would not be able guarantee your safety…

    –Penny

    Nice breakdown, and I always appreciate your willingness to tackle the more emotional panels…

    btw, anyone else notice that kishi draws every character in this manga crying in the same way… the panel at the top of one of the pages this Ch was identical to a panel done earlier of sasuke from the convo with tobi/madara…

  10. Wonderful review!

    This is why I marathon read mangas. Everything happening in Naruto right now pisses me off to no end (which is good), and instead of reading on and finding the inevitable resolution, I have to wait a few months. Let it be known that I hate Sakura and find it utterly unrealistic that she would hold out on any relationship because of a crush she had when she was 12 years old. Don’t people usually laugh those off? As far as Hinata, there have been numerous scenes of her pining over Naruto. Why would Kishi add those? So we can delight in her dreams being dashed (against Sakura’s forehead)? With the artful way she articulated her words (I just wanted to walk with you, etc), I think it’s safe to assume that her and Naruto will get together (after a while).

    As far as Danzo, I think he’s going to cause a lot more trouble than any of us would like :(. Just when it seemed like Naruto’s dreams for peace were possible, he’s messing it all up. Naruto will have a lot of fences to mend after Danzo’s done as Hokage. Either way, I’m going to do a few celebratory fist pumps of righteous fury when he’s taken down.

    And lastly, I don’t think Killerbee will be a very major player. We may see him and Kisame fight (if Kisame can beat Killerbee, Sasuke is really weak). Killerbee seems like a ‘free spirit,’ and will likely avoid the spotlight as much as possible. He may join Naruto and friends, but I don’t think he will directly serve any political role.

  11. I definitely was NOT trying to call you “attention hungry” or insult you in any way. And I’m sorry if you took what I said the wrong way or misunderstood my tone to be critical of you. I didn’t want to be disrespectful.

    I was just trying to point out the irony in declaring naruto fan’s post to be purposefully inflammatory, nothing more than a cry for attention, and then replying to him with a drawn out rebuke.

    I was trying to be sympathetic; I don’t think you should have to put up with that kind of trash when you work hard to put out quality material every single week. You deserve better, you deserve respect, but I don’t think I deserved a reprimand.

    @ luke – “free spirit” thats a perfect description of killerbee. I think its rather obvious naruto must learn to control the fox and must be taught by killerbee… given that, I think this new alliance against akatsuki and declaration to kill sasuke will end up with naruto leaving the village, perhaps leaving sakura as well…

  12. Alright guys, how bout we all calm down eh? We don’t need any fighting or disrespect. So how bout we just all let it blow over.

  13. a couple of guys here may need a smoking break.. go ahead we’ll wait for you 🙂
    There’s no room for fighting in mars so lets chill and enjoy how awesome Naruto is.

  14. I hope someone stops Danzo from being the central power of the fire country before its too late. things are looking grim for Nartuo’s idea of a world without war. I mean after creating one central power in the fire country i can totally see Danzo try to use this army to fight against other countries. Its not looking good at all. I’m looking forward to a Danzo vs. Sasuke fight. I hope he takes him out.

    However, if Sasuke were somehow able to take Danzo out of the picture this would just add on to the fact that he is trully a criminal. If there is little that Naruto can do now to save sauske it can be worst if Sasuke kills one of the “Kage”. If that were to happen even the sand would probably hunt Sasuke down.

    I wonder what will Sakura do knowing or realizing how much she is hurting Naruto by encouraging him to continue with his promise of a lifetime. Maybe she’ll try to accept the fact that Sasuke is gone, and probably for good. I wonder if she’ll choose to pursuit Naruto’s love for her. A love that she for some reason had not realized was there until now.

    Lots of good stuff is going on. Thanks for the great review Penny !!

  15. Yells “Dynamic Entry ” stikes an awesome pose*

    heya penny ,mandi gr8 breakdown 😀

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