Naruto Manga 460 Breakdown and Discussion: Sasuke Is Surrounded and Naruto Meets His Worst Nightmare

I used to be afraid of monsters under my bed.  Looks like you have a monster BESIDE your bed.  No wonder you wet your pants!

I used to be afraid of monsters under my bed. Looks like you have a monster BESIDE your bed. No wonder you wet your pants!

I don’t know what it is but the anime and the manga seem to be in sync of late – both are excellent and I am sure fired up about both!

This is Penny (TsunadesTwin) with the latest Naruto Manga lowdown, titled “Sasuke Surrounded.”  However, as we soon find out, there is a reason he is surrounded – a pure set-up by another Uchiha, Madara.  Niiiice.

The first casualty of this melee is one of the most unique Akatsuki – Zetsu.  Imagine – a Venus flytrap, cannibalistic shinobi that has a cool ability to act as lookout for the enemy near and far.  He always marched in lock step behind whomever the leader is.  His intelligence gathering capabilities were second to none.  And, his appearance was nothing short of “unique.”  How does he meet his demise, you ask?  Well, the same way many plants meet their demise at the hands of young children – having their stems broken (except that in Zetsu’s case, it happens to double as his neck).  Well, Raikage’s temper flares and with one hand manages to break the neck of our plant-based Akatsuki.  Well, that just shows you just how Madara treats his staff.  Geez!  Makes ME just want to work for the guy!

Just as you are going to get a hint, Raikage.  Let's all bow our heads in memoriam for this rather interesting plant.

Just as you are going to get a hint, Raikage. Let's all bow our heads in memoriam for this rather interesting plant.

I have to add this little piece of information, even our kinda-sorta manipulative Hokage, Danzo is impressed that Sasuke made it this far.  Gee, ya think he realizes that his days just may be numbered (God, I sure hope so!)?

Ok, I'll give you that Sasuke is with Akatsuki but Danzo had better be saying his prayers right about now.

Ok, I'll give you that Sasuke is with Akatsuki but Danzo had better be saying his prayers right about now.

Even our Kage friends, especially Gaara, is rather stunned by the turn of events.  Given that he has had some very painful first-hand experiences with Akatsuki, he should know.  Too bad he’s being written off as “too young.”

The order is:  engage for battle.  Even our newest Kage and our moderator are in agreement on this one.

The order is: engage for battle. Even our newest Kage and our moderator are in agreement on this one.

Meanwhile, elsewhere surrounding the Kage ho-down, Sasuke and company realize that they have been cornered into a nicely orchestrated set-up with no where to go.  Sasuke wanted this for HIS revenge but he realizes that now, he has lost control of the entire gig and is now merely a rat trapped in a cage with no way out.  So much for that piece of cheese known as Danzo.

Itachi was sooo right about this one.  Sasuke, you are in well over your head on this one.  Madara is no one to be messing with.

Itachi was sooo right about this one. Sasuke, you are in well over your head on this one. Madara is no one to be messing with.

Meanwhile, while the orchestrated chaos is happening thanks to his brilliant efforts, Madara decides to pay a little visit to the “brat” who just keeps interfering with his hostile take-over bid of the shinobi world, Naruto.  Yes, Madara takes a huge risk by appearing in Naruto’s atmosphere.  However, little does he know that Naruto has some serious powers of his own…

Wait!  This usually works...WTH happened?!?

Wait! This usually works...WTH happened?!?

A chat?  A chat my a**!  Madara wants no stinkin’ chat.  He wants the Kyuubi and we all know it – so does Naruto.  He’s no thickheaded dunce – this is the immortal that his dad (Yondaime Hokage) had a difficult time in defeating and has specifically requested that Naruto finish the job with the Kyuubi’s help.  Well, thankfully, Naruto is not completely defenseless.  Problem is, why on earth would his protection squad leave him as “bait?”  Nice move there, Kakashi and Yamato.

Nice moves guys!  Make Naruto feel like he's the mouse in a mousetrap and then box in the Uchiha from Hell.  So, why was Naruto bait?!?

Nice moves guys! Make Naruto feel like he's the mouse in a mousetrap and then box in the Uchiha from Hell. So, why was Naruto bait?!?

For all of the theorizing on other blogs, for all the conjecture, for all the debates about whether it is truly Tobi, Madara, Obito or even Shisui we now have it confirmed – and hopefully, this frame puts this debate to rest:  Tobi IS Madara Uchiha.  Ta-da!  There you have it, folks.  This confession ranks right up there with Hinata’s confession of her love for Naruto (as well as, I predict, an upcoming confession by Sakura of her love for Naruto, as well).  Time to cut out the debate, guys.  This guy is for real – and a major pain in the a** to boot.

It's official everyone:  we now have Madara Uchiha behind that mask.  The information entrusted to Naruto by his dad was dead-on accurate.  Now, you Jonin geniuses, what'cha gonna do about it?

It's official everyone: we now have Madara Uchiha behind that mask. The information entrusted to Naruto by his dad was dead-on accurate. Now, you Jonin geniuses, what'cha gonna do about it?

So, the plan was to “bank” on Madara to appear in solid form.  Makes sense.  I mean, the only way to capture a three dimensional being is to be three dimensional yourself.  Doesn’t take rocket science to figure that out.  However, was this appearance a major blunder on Madara’s part?

Well, we get a clear shot of what has happened.  Kakashi comes from behind with a Chidori and Yamato traps both the bait and the villain.  Good move.  So, they planned on Madara materializing and acted on that.  And, for the first time, we see Yamato taking command of this rather horrendous situation – and, oh baby, I just LOVE it!

Oh, baby.  I just love it when you talk tough, Yamato.

Oh, baby. I just love it when you talk tough, Yamato.

Yeah, talk, talk, talk.  That’s what the Uchiha from Hell says he wants.  He wants to know how Naruto got Nagato to off himself versus using that wonderful technique on Madara ensuring his immortality.  Oh, and add that Naruto’s got that Kyuubi that he wants ohhhhh so desperately.

Well…that doesn’t stop Madara from trying the “talking” route with Naruto.  Unfortunately, Naruto’s going to have none of it.  He’s more concerned with…yeah, you guessed it.

You know, Madara.  Small talk was never your style.  I suggest you go back to being invisible.

You know, Madara. Small talk was never your style. I suggest you go back to being invisible.

Well, Madara decides to cater to the whims of the prisoner put into that position by his own comrades.  Of course, now, everyonewants to know “what about Sasuke.”  Sometimes it works to be “cruel to be kind” however, with Madara, one can never be too sure if he is being kind for his own ends or is merely lying to save his a**.

Yeah.  Is this really the truth or merely the truth according to Madara?

Yeah. Is this really the truth or merely the truth according to Madara?

Speaking of Sasuke, he’s got his own problems at the moment.  His team is surrounded and he has no idea as to how to get out of the jam he now finds himself in.  Normally, you’d wonder if he would be thinking, “Can we just go back to bed, wake up and start this over again?”  Maybe he’s wondering if he’s experiencing a “Ground Hog Day” of his own – reliving the same day over and over again until he gets it right.  However, with Madara orchestrating chaos of this magnitude, you can never be too sure.  All I have to say is:  what a mess!

Suigetsu?  You are on the right track as to who is to blame here.  If you added Madara to the mix, you'd be right on the money.

Suigetsu? You are on the right track as to who is to blame here. If you added Madara to the mix, you'd be right on the money.

Ok, when I read this part of the chapter, I just had to laugh.  I remember asking what the difference was between shinobi and samurai.  Apparently, Karin and Suigetsu didn’t know either.  I mean, if you have to ask if samurai alsomanipulate chakra, I think it’s high time that someone did some research on their opponent.

Yeah.  It's Ground Hog day for Sasuke.  Too bad the Samurai aren't amused.

Yeah. It's Ground Hog day for Sasuke. Too bad the Samurai aren't amused.

Well, at least one person on Taka is thinking clearly:  our so-called Bi-Polar Juugo.  He remembered the mission:  Destroy Danzo.  And, he instructs Karin to keep moving to find the target.  However, there is one problem – she just happens to be a chakra sensor.  And, what she sees is enough to make one turn stone cold – Sasuke is not quite himself these days.

*Darth Vadar theme plays*  All we need is a black gown, a black mask and emphysema-like breathing.  Is this Sasuke or Anakin Skywalker?

*Darth Vadar theme plays* All we need is a black gown, a black mask and emphysema-like breathing. Is this Sasuke or Anakin Skywalker?

Note that happy face in the background isn’t one from Barney the dinosaur.  He’s got something far more sinister than even the Kyuubi.  But, what is it and where did he get it?  Is it the plague?

Ok, theory time.  My personal belief is that Sasuke is under the direct control of Madara now.  Remember that nasty Sharingan that Danzo now possesses?  Madara has that level of Sharingan – and a whole lot more.  My belief is that he is using that very subtle mind manipulation technique through his Sharingan to move Sasuke towards the “dark side.”  Unfortunately for Madara, Naruto is only scratching the tip of the iceberg but will eventually put it all together.  Karin, however, is already figuring out that “her” Sasuke isn’t the same anymore either.

Yeah, it's bad.  Karin?  What are you going to do about this?

Yeah, it's bad. Karin? What are you going to do about this?

Another theory…I think we are going to, for the first time, see the merging of both Taka and Konoha (in the form of Kakashi, Yamato and Naruto) in order to save Sasuke from this – I believe, very obvious – manipulation of Sasuke.  Sasuke is in over his head and it will be up to that power that Itachi granted to Naruto to bring Sasuke back.  For a little reminder of what I am talking about, click here.  Question is…what power did Itachi give to Naruto?

And, to show you just how bad things have become, Sasuke runs smack into the Raikage and his legions and there is nothing that Karin or the rest of Taka can do about it.  However, will this be stopped?

Sasuke versus Raikage.  Will someone clue in this Kage that his Jinchuuriki brother is STILL alive????

Sasuke versus Raikage. Will someone clue in this Kage that his Jinchuuriki brother is STILL alive????

Wow!  What a chapter!  This is far better than the pain of the Pain arc.  Here we go on the difficult quest to bring peace to shinobi-dom but…where does Naruto fit into this?  Guess we’ll have to wait a week to find out.  Damn – and it is awesome, too.

Well, have a great week everyone!

–Penny

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~ by 綱手-Tsunades Twin on August 22, 2009.

19 Responses to “Naruto Manga 460 Breakdown and Discussion: Sasuke Is Surrounded and Naruto Meets His Worst Nightmare”

  1. I think Zetsu’s action serves two purposes. Firstly, as a test for Sasuke. If he can deal with it, he’s worthy of being Madara’s lacky. I tell you what, Pain could have taken out the Kages. The second purpose is to cement Sasuke’s role as the outlaw. If Sasuke directly attacks a Kage or two, no village could ever take him in, without implications of war.

    Aside from that, I have so many ideas floating in my head that I’ll just wait to see things unfold before I divulge.

    I will say this, that ‘moonplan’ thing that Madara has is likely something none of us have predicted and will also throw a lot of theories in the garbage. I suspect Madara’s strange and unagressive actions will be made clear when we figure out what this is.

  2. I think that Madara’s ‘talk’ with Naruto is nothing more than a smokescreen to keep him from interfering with Sauske as he battles the Kages. I also think his Moonplan has a lot to do with Sasuke developing powers beyond the MS then taking his eyes to gain that ultimate power. The development of that new power is why Madara is manipulating Sasuke and Naruto is a key to gaining those powers. Of course I’ve been blindsided by the mind of Kishi before… LOL

  3. it think itachi power is maybe to free sasuke under control from madara itachi was the only one that overcome it and neww madara was alive so itachi power can stop madara u know why if madara can control people he would have control naruto easily so i think it some think to do with itachi i also believe itachi was powerhouse i think he was match for madara also remeber when itachi die mardara said no one is going to troble me n he add “for much for you will not toch konha.

    i want ask every one question how powerful was itachi rely wat u think about this

  4. one other think strongly believe is that if tobi is really madara are they anything other reason to still hide his face plz help me wit this question too

  5. In my opinion i think tobi has VERY bad acne and is very sensitive about it and thats why he wears the mask, or mabye cause he always has his sharingan on his right eye so he just keeps the mask on so he doest have to worry about keeping his other eye closed, either that or he just likes to play dress up and the mask is a great addition to his costume ^^….or mabye hes REALLY ugly, hmmm now u have a few new things to think about

  6. Personally, I think Tobi/madara is about as attractive as Kakuzu was in his prime. I mean, think about it. Would you want your face shown if all you do is spit out spaghetti strands?

  7. We’ve all followed the manga for a while, we all think it’s great obviously, but isn’t there such a thing as too much of something? Kishi’s played up the suspense in the manga a bit much, no? I guess it sells right? Plenty of story lines left up in the air. Like what in the world happened to that frog key thingie that came out of Jiraiya? And after what, a year?, we’re still wondering what the heck Itachi gave Naruto?
    I guess in the end it’s all good cuz it makes the manga more interesting and gives us narutards a buncha stuff to talk about and predict. Only to be totally wrong.
    Like my theory about Itachi planting some of his “power” in naruto so that when sasuke goes into his consciousness again ‘big brother’ will be there to have a conversation with him and set him straight, 4th hokage style.

    Anyway, good job with the breakdowns. Kinda sad to see the reply posts aren’t as numerous as the ‘other’ blog. So I’ma try to do my part and encourage the discussions.

    btw, is there anyone else but me who thinks naruto doesn’t really have full control over his sage/kyubi style? I mean, his pops fixed the seal in the Pain fight, that’s why the kyubi went away. Not cuz he ‘suppressed it himself’ like sakura was saying…

  8. I agree with Saha. Maybe Itachi’s power was some type of ability to be able to counter Madara’s Mind controling technique. Maybe this technique is something that itachi was able to develop to defeat his “best friend” Shisui Uchia. It’s must be preaty touugh to be able to detect that you are in someone else’s control when the technique never allows you to notice if and when you were in control of another person.
    Therefore this leads one to wonder how the “total mind control” technique actually works. Maybe it has to do with something as simple as a “conversation”. The conversation is used to begin to give off information which later the person accepts as true. This would explain why Madara just wants to “talk” with Naruto. Maybe Madara wants to control Naruto now like seems to be controlling Sasuske.
    If a “conversation” while being exposed to the sharingan is all that it takes to control someone with the “total mind control” technique than one could argue that Madara used it against Sasuke when he told him about Itachi’s intentions.

  9. @kahmix: That’s why I am trying to throw ideas out there for discussion. That “other” blog to which you refer has a very central base – I used to write for it. Nothing wrong with it but…there are others of us out there. 🙂

  10. i have serach and everthing but i still dont see that reason for tobi/madara to hide face and less tobi is anbu for danzo lol possible but i think over and over again why hide his face if he really is madara something like that is not madara

  11. I think Kishi is just waiting for a more dramatic way to reveal Madara’s face. Maybe he’ll show his face to a worthy opponent. As of now even though Tobi looks trapped he still talks calmly as if he knows that he can slip away from Kakashi and Yamato. Nobody has fought Madara at his own level yet maybe we’ll have to wait for “that” fight.

  12. I dig manny’s reasoning for tobi’s mask. as for itachi’s little gift to naruto, i don’t think it could have anything to do with madara. when he gave it to naruto, he was talking about saving konoha even if it meant killing sasuke, and that he hopes naruto never has to use it: http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/403/08/ I’m pretty sure he meant “I hope you don’t have to kill my lil bro with this badass jutsu i’m hookin you up with, punk. so i dont see madara getting mixed up in it directly.

    @penny: i know about the ‘other’ one and it’s base. i’ve read it since it came out after the other ‘other’ went away. nothing wrong with it since i follow both. everything from the writing to the fanbase is pretty different i think. which is cool cuz variety’s always a good thing. you’re doin a great job btw

  13. Manny814 – You make a great point regarding Madara. Up to this point, we have seen regular eyes with a Sharingan or Byakugan but there may be another eye technique that can be outfitted with the Sharingan that is the key to his current powers and thus… the mask. Never thought of that until now.

    As for this board I would ask you to Google ‘Naruto 460 discussion’ or ‘Naruto 460 manga’ or some other combination and see where this site appears. In other words, if you weren’t specifically looking for this site, you would have a VERY hard time finding it even exists. The only way I found this board was I am a fan of Penny’s breakdowns from the ‘other, other’ site. Would that make me a groupie? Hmmm

  14. “Like my theory about Itachi planting some of his “power” in naruto so that when sasuke goes into his consciousness again ‘big brother’ will be there to have a conversation with him and set him straight, 4th hokage style. ”

    That’s the first Naruto theory I’ve ever heard that I, not only think is highly plausible, but would want it to happen. Obviously there are some flaws, but there are flaws in Kishi’s plot as it is, so oh well.

  15. Does anyone think that Sasuke relates well to Juugo because he’s a ‘Big Baby’ version of Naruto from when he trained with him?

  16. @ Tony: so maybe Madara uses a Mask to focus Genjutsu type technique. Maybe one of the eyes has stronger genjutsu techniques than the other. Thus by using a mask that covers the other eye Madara is able to induce stronger genjutsu and is able to do it without being detected. It seems very far out there but either way, its genius ! 😀

    @ kahmix : I agree with you about the power given to Naruto by Itachi. It most likly will be something that gives him power enough to kill Sasuske. However, the way that Itachi smiles after Naruto says “that he would save both Sasuske and Konohana because he wont bend his word”, makes me a little bit suspicious.

    http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/403/07/

    Maybe Itachi belived in Naruto for just a second and gave him something to save sasuke.

    And like i said before you’re probably right but i just have to say what if.

  17. i just want to saw the face of maddara??/

  18. Thanks for posting the breakdown, I missed this episode. I will surely visit your website again.

  19. love the comments at the bottom! rotflol (rolling on the floor laughing out loud) any way it was sick cant wait till the next one

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