Naruto Manga 461 Breakdown and Discussion: Sasuke Goes Full Steam Ahead and Kumogakure Has Sasuke’s Number

This is Penny (TsunadesTwin) with our weekly lowdown, which is actually more of a blow-by-blow account of the attack on Raikage by Taka.  And, there is one other thing that I noticed – some of the lamest comments made by some of these guys since, well…the painful Pain arc.  So, I’ll tell ya what happened here – and highlight some of my personal picks for the comments that belong in the Naruto Hall of Stupid Comments.  You can cast your vote for your pick at the end of this, uh, breakdown.

Note to those wanting more of Madara: it ain’t gonna happen.  He’s not here this week, nor is Naruto, Yamato, Kakashi or any hint of Konoha.  He’s pulling his invisiblity jutsu this week.  You Madara watchers will just have to wait another week at least.  So, if you are looking for Naruto and want nothing to do with Taka, you may wish to quit reading.  For the rest of us, we’ll move right along, shall we???

Yeah.  Take a chill, have some Ichiraku and then have that heart-to-heart, k?

Yeah. Take a chill, have some Ichiraku and then have that heart-to-heart, k?

On To Battle: We all knew the Raikage vs. Sasuke fight wouldn’t be a pretty battle.  I mean, hey, it’s war after all. However, even Taka didn’t think things would turn THIS ugly.  It’s an interesting twist that Juugo is the one trying to restrain Sasuke from exacting his revenge.  Neither he nor the other Taka members have seen Sasuke act without either provocation – or without careful assessment of the situation.  So, what gives?

Hey Sasuke!  Your teammate has a point here - slow down.  This isn't the rush for Usher tickets.

Hey Sasuke! Your teammate has a point here - slow down. This isn't the rush for Usher tickets.

From the looks of Sasuke’s loss of reason, it is clear that someone from Taka is going to die in my opinion.  Let me know in the comments if you agree. However, if you had to take a guess at who would die first…

Ok, now we are back at elemental jutsu 101.  Well for those of you needing a refresher in the jutsu elements, you will get one here.  See the picture below.

180px-Elemental_Relationships_Diagram.svg

It reads clockwise – which indicates strength over the one after it:  Katon (fire), Fuuton (wind), Raiton (lightning), Doton (earth) and Suiton (water).  In essence, this battle goes back to the basics – the basics of the relationships of the elements – and exploiting their weaknesses (gee, just how many battles have we seen where this has been the case???).

Now, we all know that Sasuke is a…Raiton (lightning) based type.  He also has Katon (fire) as well.  This is precisely the information that Boobs and company received while in Konoha on Sasuke.  And, boy, do they use it well.

Unfortunately, Sasuke is met with a devastating Suiton (water) attack – which conducts his lightning (OUCH).  Then, he is pounded with another devastating Raiton (lightning) attack.  The collaboration of the two techniques send Sasuke flying.

Although not shown here, there was a devastating water tech just before this - you can see that Sasuke's toast as a result.

Although not shown here, there was a devastating water tech just before this - you can see that Sasuke's toast as a result.

Well, well well.  Looks like Kumogakure has Sasuke cornered.  And, here is the first comment that qualifies for consideration to the Naruto Hall of Stupid Comments:   Suigetsu makes the oh-so-obvious assertion that these guys have intelligence on Sasuke from “somewhere.”  Suigetsu?  This is one of the most dumb-ass comments I’ve ever seen you make.  Where else would they have gotten their intelligence?  Madara????  No, you baka!  Konoha!  Konoha!  It came from Konoha – and the man you originally slated to kill, Danzo.

And, wouldn’t you know that Taka backs up each other so well that in just the next frame comes the next series of comments for consideration this week – Juugo and Sasuke making notes on who is who (duh!) and Sasuke saying “This won’t be easy…”  Where on earth did THAT come from?  This isn’t your local robbery of Ichiraku Ramen.  This is the meeting of the five (supposedly) most powerful ninja of their respective villages.  You expected this to be a cakewalk?  Geez!  Oh, and never mind that Sasuke has made yet another “friend,” a resident samurai calling for back up – perhaps for relief from these resident geniuses’ comments.  Man, this is UUUUUhhhhhgly!

Ok, Suigetsu.  You are clearly the BAKA of the frame here.  And, no one just happens to notice the samurai asking for help...this is bad!

Ok, Suigetsu, Juugo and Sasuke. You are clearly a team here and all are BAKA of the frames here. And, no one just happens to notice the samurai asking for help. Perhaps he thought Suigetsu and company was as stupid as I thought...this is bad!

Oh, man, does it get better!  Here it comes, yet another comment for consideration to the Naruto Hall of Stupid Comments:  Shi, one of the rather gifted Kumo Jonin, uses a series of hand signs and…Juugo just has to comment that “something is coming.”  Geez! Where are these translators getting their lines this week?!?  Star Wars?  This ranks right up there with “I’ve got a bad feeling about this…”  Juugo is a top pick for the dumbest-ass line of the manga chapter this week.  Well, what’s coming? One hell of a genjutsu/blinding light technique that allows the Raikage to sneak in practically undetected and go – SMASH!  Well, Sasuke sees right through it – after all, it is merely classic genjutsu –  and tells Juugo to calm down thanks to his Sharingan.  But…when the light dims, we have Shi and the Raikage, two not-so-tiny yet very strong shinobi hovering over Sasuke waiting to decimate him to bits.  Luckily for him, Suigetsu takes the blow – as does Zabuza’s sword, which is now reduced to merely a miniature meat cleaver as it is split into two.

Sorry, Suigetsu.  That noteworthy sword of yours has been reduced to a Genju knife.

Sorry, Suigetsu. That noteworthy sword of yours has been reduced to a Genju knife. Add to that, your arms are now puddles...

Ok, yet another dumb-ass line for consideration of this week’s chapter goes to Juugo yet again.  He tells Suigetsu that the reason for his sword breaking into two is because the crack it obtained during the battle of the 8-tails finally gave in. OMG, you baka! This was NOT the thing to be saying in front of the Raikage – who happens to be related to the 8-tails.

Ok, I've had it.  There are so many lame comments that I can't keep up here - this one takes the cake.  Talk about rubbing salt into a still-open wound!  Don't mention Killer Bee in front of the Raikage.

Ok, I've had it. There are so many lame comments that I can't keep up here - this one takes the cake. Talk about rubbing salt into a still-open wound! Don't mention Killer Bee in front of the Raikage.

And, for all the hard work they all do – including the stupid comments – Sasuke gives them an “I don’t need your services today.  Trot on home, kids.” What????  Oh, Sasuke really has done it now and is also a contender for the dumb-ass comment this week.  I mean, he doesn’t even offer then an “arrigato” or even a Sapporo Beer break for the hard work done.  Nope, not our resident emo.  The crack didn’t just hit Zabuza’s sword – it has now managed to infiltrate Taka as well. Sasuke, in one line, tells the team that this is HIS fight and that they did their job in ensuring that he got to this point. Well, what do you expect of Sasuke and his arrogance, huh?

What a dumb move, Sasuke.  Not even a note of thanks or even concern for your missing comrade?  What an ingrate - and a clear candidate for the Naruto Hall of Stupid Comments.

What a dumb move, Sasuke. Not even a note of thanks or even concern for your missing comrade? What an ingrate - and a clear candidate for the Naruto Hall of Stupid Comments.

However, it becomes clear that Karin is the only one left that has yet to be found.  She can no longer perform her primary function – sense for Danzo’s chakra.  In fact, Shi is a chakra sensor type, also, which now complicates Karin’s life further.  She’s like a rat trapped in a cage.  Juugo, who shows the most loyalty of the team, decides to give into his cursed seal and go to his third stage, the “I’ll kill you and everyone else” stage in order to kill this Kumo chakra sensor. Question is, will he manage to do it?  Now, not even Sasuke can – or will he ever – offer to hold him back further.  Gahhh!

Back to the politics:  Meanwhile, the political fallout from all of this is clearly evident.  Now, no one trusts anyone – mostly Danzo, including the so-called neutral party.  Geez!  How bad could things get here?  This looks like a typical fight in the US Congress over…anything.  So, the first task at hand:  is Danzo still using his technique? Well, lucky for everyone, he readily admits he can’t use that Sharingan multiple times a day.  Well, hooray for everyone (sarcasm intended)!  But, it has clearly done it’s damage to the negotiations and to the credibility to everyone present – except for maybe Gaara.  If he were a Shougi player, he’d suck big time!  Needless to say, Danzo’s statements also qualify for the Naruto Hall of Stupid Comments.

Of all the stupid...Danzo, you sure have some incompetents working for you if you didn't know about another Byakugan user.  Your move just made Konoha look like a total BAKA!

Of all the stupid...Danzo, you sure have some incompetents working for you if you didn't know about another Byakugan user. Your move just made Konoha look like a total BAKA!

What finally comes out into the open is Danzo’s view of the ninja World Order. He sees Akatsuki as the destruction of the ninja world order that, as he sees Hashirama (Shodaime Hokage), as establishing from the beginning.  He then says discussion is useless and the nations should come together and fight. Well, just as he finishes speaking, Danzo is just as quickly rebuked by all for his hastiness and for being outlandish and unrealistic; never mind the usage of his unique Sharingan.

Muahh ha ha ha.  A long way from Tsunade and Jiraiya's hope for peace.  Is this what Hashirama Senju really wanted?

Muahh ha ha ha. A long way from Tsunade and Jiraiya's hope for peace. Is this what Hashirama Senju really wanted?

Well, as we all suspected, we have one ray of hope:  The Godaime Kazekage, our buddy Gaara.  And, little does anyone – other than his siblings – knows what this means is that Naruto Uzumaki’s/Jiraiya’s views are being well represented.  However, he’s written off, yet again, as a youngster who has no clue as to what to do next.  However, and this is my opinion, I think we are going to be seeing and hearing a whole lot more from both Gaara and Naruto on this one.

Here we go...the NEW world order according to the new generation, thanks to Naruto.

Here we go...the NEW world order according to the new generation, thanks to Naruto.

It gets even better than this:  Gaara calls all of the Kage on their s**t.  WHAT?!?  You heard it here – Gaara takes a bold and ballsy stand, not unlike his comrade, Naruto Uzumaki – and calls the other Kage hypocrites for their spouting wanting peace and acting otherwise.  Now, that’s a REAL Kage!

Wow!  Now, that's a major statement for Gaara - and a Kage.  Too bad the old guard won't listen - yet.

Wow! Now, that's a major statement for Gaara - and a Kage. Too bad the old guard won't listen - yet.

So…this leads to this:

There is one problem for the Sand:  the siblings initially assisted in the disasterous Retrieval mission to save Sasuke in the very beginning.  Now, even THEY are caught in a corner politically, something that Temari points out (man, I’m rather impressed of the increasing intelligence of the comments so far…).  So, what to do, what to do?  Do they join the battle to “save” Sasuke out of allegiance to Naruto and the initial agreement signed by their father and Godaime Hokage, Tsunade?  Or…

Not an easy answer, Gaara.  This is the time to become a true Kage.

Not an easy answer, Gaara. This is the time to become a true Kage.

Ok, now Juugo’s mad – really mad.  He goes to the killer mode of his cursemark and even Suigetsu wonders if Juugo will remember whose side he’s really on.  Hmmm…sounds kind of like the Kyuubi, eh?  And, we are left with a decimated meeting place, a confused Kage corps, Danzo under guard, Sasuke’s inconsideration of his teammates, Karin’s status and…then there’s Naruto, Madara, Kakashi and Yamato.  OMG, what a mess.

Now, for the final poll of this week…the Naruto Hall of Stupid Comments.  Here are the top contenders:

#1:  Suigetsu makes the oh-so-obvious assertion that the Kumo Jonin have intelligence on Sasuke from “somewhere.”

#2:  Sasuke and Juugo identifying the obvious:  that they are fighting Kumo Jonin

#3:  Sasuke commenting that fighting Kumo Jonin won’t be easy

#4:  Juugo commenting that “something is coming” in the blinding genjutsu attack by the Kumo Jonin

#5:  Juugo commenting that the reason Suigetsu’s sword broke was the crack obtained from the battle with the 8-tails – made in front of the Raikage, the 8-tails’ brother

#6:  Sasuke’s “I don’t need your help” comment to his teammates late in the battle

#7:  Danzo’s comment that he didn’t realize that there was “another Byakugan” in existence – and his underlings’ stupidity in knowing this.

I will announce the overall winner next week.  Ha!  This one should be fun.  Well, enjoy your read – and I will enjoy to read your comments on this one.  So…I wonder what will happen next week.  Guess we’ll all find out, now, won’t we.

Til then…

Penny

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~ by 綱手-Tsunades Twin on August 29, 2009.

16 Responses to “Naruto Manga 461 Breakdown and Discussion: Sasuke Goes Full Steam Ahead and Kumogakure Has Sasuke’s Number”

  1. roflmfao!!! this is exactly what i was thinking, and personally i think that this whol chapter minus gaara’s parts can be thrown in the trash. kishi is obviously confused exactly how he wants to end this, or maybe even just where the manga is going…

  2. LOL – good stuff penny.
    This was a pointless chapter really (besides the gaara moment). Honestly i wanted to physically facepalm when suigetsu mentioned the ‘intel’ comment. errrrr. But i think #3 takes the cake – fighting a couple of jounin plus a kage will be tough… (this is where sasuke should have looked around to see all of his team mates plus the kumo nin staring at him silently).
    I really hope that Gaara is a huge part of what follows in the manga – the re-rescue/taking hostage of Sasuke (i doubt sasuke will be taken hostage though) plus the outcome of the Kage Summit.
    WE NEED MORE GAARA TIME!!! 😉

  3. PENNY. Just wanna say something. Ya know I thought that Word On Mars, was gone.. Bcoz when u search for Word On Mars. Ur Blog site is not viewed, that is why I am thinking that people have a hard time on looking for ur site. So I am suggesting for a change in name. I am not that good in using the internet, so I didn’t know at first that u can just type wordonmars.wordpress.com. That’s all..

  4. lol great breakdown penny. im new to posting on naruto forums but have been reading the breakdowns for awhile. lol im going to different naruto post like these to see what people are saying about the chapters because im a naruto addict and im proud lol.
    i like the you pointed out the all the stupid cooments in this chapter it had me roflmao. makes me wonder what taka did while waiting for danzou to lower thinking abilites for awhile maybe a litlle ppp?

  5. wow complete gramar error there *i like how you pointed out the all the stupid comments* k thats a little better sounding

  6. Definitely some retarded waste of dialogue there in that chapter. But is anyone else tired of seeing sasuke getting his butt saved by his group? We’ve seen that already. TWICE! Oh yeah, and it happened to be against raikage’s lil bro…..dang. Not looking too good for sasuke if you think about it like that. i mean, the raikage’s even stronger right?

    as a fan, it kinda ticks you (me) off cuz sasuke’s character has been all “i’m the best in the world, nobody phases me, i’m better than everyone…” But then in the battles he’s getting saved by his goonies. I’m hoping the arrogance will finallly earn its place with a decent fight that doesn’t get interrupted before we see what sasuke and raikage REALLY show what they got

  7. Great breakdown penny, i loved how u collected and rated all the stupid comments in this chapter! i would have to say #3 and #6 are the worst.

    P.S Madara and naruto cant go to ichiraku…. didnt Pain blow it up with the rest of the village?

  8. @foool: Please direct your comments on this item to the main admin of this blog broken1 at dyeyankee@gmail.com.

    –Penny

  9. @takashi: Yup, you are correct. However, I was being hopeful that the fast food industry in Konoha was the first item back in business.

  10. @kahmix: as I was reading this I was amazed at how little meaningful dialogue there was. Then when writing this blog, I thought I would do a poll as there were just SO many great and juicy stupid comments. Hey, I almost wish there was some next week so we can continue this as everyone, including me, enjoyed it so much.

    Btw…I think that Sasuke’s arrogance has ALWAYS been a stupid/BAKA thing. He is obviously NOT one of my personal favorites.

  11. does any think it weird that sasuke started with fire manipulation and now he mainly uses only lightning. i dont think he through one fireball deidara’s way.

  12. @Penny: i dunno, i don’t think i can handle any more retarded waste of space comments. i got into the manga and anime cuz it was badazz and i go back to read/watch old ones all the time cuz lately they’ve upped the ‘keep u in suspense’ and lame factors a bit. but in the end, does it matter? no. cuz i’m still hooked and a huge fan till this dang thing ends.

    as for sasuke, not my favorite character either but he’s got his place, i think. he’s not very likeable, but he’s a good character for the manga. if you consider all the talk, dislike, and drama the fans have on the forums for him then it makes sense. any character that gets the readers engaged as much as he does is really a good character. even if it’s with negative vibes. cuz if he dies, then what?

  13. sasuke if you don’t come back i’ll stuff myself into the TV screen and make sure you go back myself!!

  14. I’m hoping that Gara will get some well deserved credebility and that now that the temp Hokage has been exposed as a manipulatory bastard he will not be recognized any further as Konohana’s leader.

    I can’t wait to see what Madara has to say.

    @Emo_Angel: your comment sounds like something Naruto would say 😀

  15. gooooooooooodddd

  16. This is a great breakdown! this website is really helpful especially when I missed some episodes. thanks.

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